For all the people that said that detro made me do his "dirty work"..is just truly stupid. I have talked to him before that and he really wanted to say sorry to everyone and make things right with people. so maybe he can have a chance again on being back in the clan. but no. now hes not going to. im honestly surprised in OUR members that you guys would stoop that low into saying that. i gave detro the option of letting me help in into making things right with you guys and he agreed. and jumping into conclusion that he MADE me? with out even asking me to get the reasons? just...wow. you guys really went low with this.

Because of this, a good person will now not be able to join back in the clan because he doesnt want to. knowing people didnt take him seriously. he wanted to make things right and say he was sorry and you guys just turned him down. im ashamed in you people.

Now i know his application for minecraft was on the jokingly side but he just wanted to have some fun. but that gives no reason to turn him down.

because of all of that im questioning my self whether this is my clan to stay with anymore. whether you guys are the same people i met when i joined. i guess you guys have changed to people that just jump to conclusion.

Detro i am sorry that these people jumped the gun like that. i tried to help you but i guess it didnt work. i am ashamed in the people that did. very.

Ok I'll bite. What conclusions did we jump to? Why should we take someone serious who didn't take the application process serious? If you feel that we did wrong by not allowing someone back into the clan that caused another member to leave and whom always seamed to be at the center of any drama that may or may not be going on then please the door is that way ---->. Don't let it hit you on the way out.

Okay Lys, here my part of everything.
You and Detro where not the best friends before, that can be seen in the forums. But just from nowhere I get a PM from you and not Detro, saying he wants to fix things, I'm getting confused right there. Iknow the guy, if he wants to talk to me about stuffs made or such, he can just text me anywhere and literally talk to me open, I would never mind that. So ofc I jumped to a conclusion, wouldnt you? I even asked you about it, and I didn't get any answer.

You can be mad at me, I don't mind at all. But don't come here and say that everyone that made this conclusion is truly stupid. Because for me it all made sense, Detro himself didnt come to me and ask about anything, I got a PM from you and noone else about him wanting to fix things. I'm raised with the thing here in Sweden, if you want to fix things, you do it yourself, you never send someone else to do that job for you, that's just how I work and I'm pretty sure there is atleast 1 other person in this clan being just the same.

I am really sorry it went the way it went, and I will not stop you from defend him, but if the guy wants to solve things with me, let him solve them with me and him personally. I don't want anyone else telling me that he wants to do things if it's not coming from his mouth. I don't see the reason why you are mad at all, or why you accuses everyone in the clan.

Making posts like this publicly bashing on whoever you are talking about is not called for Lysenko. If you have a problem with anyone you go to chase who if I'm correct is still HR. There is absolutely no need for you to accuse people of doing you or detro wrong.

Exploding on the forums is no way to confront the people you are trying to directly talk to. Teamspeak and PMs are wonderful sources that you can use to express your feelings and thoughts to the people you want to tell them to and not to the entire community (yes, people who aren't in the clan and are browsing the forums can see this.) I suggest you take it down or something of that nature.

PLEASE think twice before pulling a stunt like this Mark. You are a cool dude and one of my good friends that I've made in my time here. If you feel that BBF isn't what it used to be anymore then leaving and moving on would be understandable.

Now if detro wants to apologize to all the people he wronged then he should stop talking about it and do it. I hope he knows that doesn't mean his apologies will be accepted by everyone.

I hate to be the cause of this, and I don't even know if making this post is a good choice, or bad. The reason Lysenko sent those private messages, is because a few weeks after he said what he did on the fourms, I confronted him, a little later than I should have, and we pm'd for like 30 minutes that night, talking about how things were going. He offered to help me, and I felt, that if I denied his help, it would make me look like even more of an ass than I already had been. All I wanted was to make up with people I may have hurt, or caused distress to. Nothing more. I screwed up bigtime, yes, and I thought that having a member on my side, and helping me, would make things easier. The application was a joke, yes, Zodiac. The reason it was, is because I thought that it would be a breeze getting back into the first clan I actually commited to. I was wrong, big time. That, and a few other reasons, is why I was talking to MT and Chase, and decided to take the application back. All I want is for this to be over, and all of this drama to be over. Everyone thinks that I love being in the middle of drama, when infact, I don't. This is stressing me out way more than it needs to right now, and I just want it all to be over. But sadlly, time machines haven't been invented yet, and I can't change anything I've done. So there, that's it, I'm sorry for all of this.

-Detro

As Guardian mentioned if anyone is ever having a problem please feel free to turn to me to help resolve such problems. You can also come to me if you are just needing to vent and have someone to talk to about struggles you are having in real life.

Now in regards to Detro.

Detro is a very kind hearted person who has been thru his very own struggles and challenges throughout life and those struggles and challenges have made him into the person he is today.

I don’t think Detro is looking for attention or trying to cause drama. I feel Detro has a passion for the clan much stronger than some members however his passion and his character has caused him to clash with other members.

I have spoken with Detro on many occasions and he is always wanting to know what I feel is his best route to take and I have explained to him multiple times that he is a grown man and can make his decisions on his own.

Last night he asked me to deny his application which I refused. I refused to formally deny his application as a DC member because there are already discussions regarding his membership in the works as many CLB members already know. I personally have not made any replies to these posts because as a former (Member, Officer, CGC, GC, RC. And HR) I have learned to give people a little slack and was waiting to see what Detro would do or decide next because I knew he had/s a lot on his mind.

Sometimes in life you have to look past what the eye can see (coming from the bling guy lol) and look further into what can be.

As it stand right now Detro can reapply for the clan at any given moment. Detros application will however be delayed slightly until the CLB and DC decide how to proceed.

I have made the suggestion to Detro to take actions to repaird any damage he felt he has done and to possibly take a slight brake from gaming to remind himself who he is and what he wants from life.

I recommend a break to any member who is feeling overwhelmed or is considering leaving.

as of now i dont feel the blame is needed for anyone. i felt the need to make this post because of things ive heard and the things i have discussed with detro. i am sorry if this post made people mad. i felt the need to help some one that was needing it.